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We heard an anecdote recently about Navy SEALs that hit us so hard, we had to do a special episode about it:

Apparently, of all the extreme things they subject SEALs to during training, the part they find the most unbearable is not knowing when it ends. It’s not the torturous conditions themselves, but not knowing how long they’ll have to endure them, that makes it so difficult.

Of course, we immediately thought: This is the pandemic. Or a job you hate and have no idea when you’ll ever be able to quit. Or a bad marriage. Or being single when you don’t want to be. Or a health crisis.

There are so many things in life that feel impossible to quit, and are made that much more difficult because we have no light at the end of the tunnel.

But who’s to say you can’t create a light at the end of the tunnel? We believe it’s possible, even in circumstances you think you have zero control over. So, in a special bonus Side Chat, we got into…

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  1. Have you seen The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt? This reminded me of when they showed the flashbacks of her in the bunker with the other mole women. I think there was a scene where she said, “If I can get through the next 10 seconds of this, I can get through anything!” I know that’s not a lot of context and that one line probably doesn’t do it justice, but I remember feeling inspired by it. Just the whole idea of her being trapped underground for so long and triumphing in spite of it made her quite a hero.

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